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Saturday September 24, 2005 at 11:40 am

Is this really Feminism?
Are we really as free as we think we are?

NOTE: I want to make it clear right now that I love
being American, and I love my freedom. I just want to take a look
at us as a culture with a more critical eye.

As people of American culture, we tend to look upon women from
Muslim and other cultures with a critical eye because we feel that they
do not have “freedom” to choose what they want. However, I want
take a closer look into our culture and our society.

Do we really have as much freedom as we think we do?

Sure, there are no laws prohibiting us from wearing what we want,
doing what we want. However, isn’t this country by nature still
somewhat of a patriarchy? So while we dance around
self-righteously about our freedom, I think there are some things that
we need to look at.

For example, let’s go back to the idea that we can wear whatever we
want. If you’re a woman: how many times have you worn a pair of
shoes that cuts into your foot so badly that it begins to bleed?
If you’re a man: how many times have you seen this happen?

Aside from sadists, is this really what we want for ourselves? Or
is it the image of what we are attaining using the clothes we wear that
is reigning supreme in our mind?

A normal woman who wears no make-up, wears comfortable clothes like
sweats, and doesn’t get her hair styled and dyed is probably considered
a slob.

The same woman who wears make-up, impossible to wear clothing,
and has impeccable hair at first glance will be called beautiful. — or
at the very least, “hot”.

This is what we have come to. A society in which the fake
outdoes the natural. A society in which you’re judged by your
outside.

So tell me now, are we really free?

Women who always have to be covered may not be free to wear what
they want — but they’re not being judged by strangers on their
physical features.

I think that we’re all bound by the labels of this society.


I used to be the kind of person that could go to the mall in a
pair of sweats, with no make-up and a raggedy pony tail. Perhaps
it’s the Orange County air, but I can’t anymore.

My sense of being trapped probably started when I saw little girls,
no older than 10 done up more expensively and stylishly that I ever
was, have been since, or ever will be. There’s just something
wrong, when a 10 year old looks more attractive [in an adult way!] than
you do. It’s something that as much as you rant about how wrong it is,
makes you feel self conscious. And this self consciousness makes
you dye your hair, put on make up and wear clothes you wouldn’t
naturally choose to wear.

Are we really as free as we think we are?


The winners for yesterday’s contest are:

By popular vote:

fansign for kim
Brent
And by Kim’s Choice:
Temp 002
Larry

franksabunch said,

September 24, 2005 @ 11:48 am

True dat…in America we choose to be oppressed.

aradne said,

September 24, 2005 @ 11:48 am

I am that slob. I enjoy myself. I sit next to sorority girls in class. Other than the occasional time when I’m in a low mood, I’m okay with it. They’re happy, I’m happy.

snowy_court said,

September 24, 2005 @ 11:48 am

i don’t wear makeup. and i mainly wear jeans and sweatshirts. and i prefer comfort to conforming like everybody else.

bjtdevera said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:02 pm

The biggest religion in the U.S. is fashion.yay for me and larry!

JeLLy0re0 said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:05 pm

shoes that cut your feet sucks.

dhdh49 said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:05 pm

wow, your posts are all so… intriguing.as long as we live in a society with other people, we have to care about what others think. once we start to think that others opinions matter, then we cannot be truly free, psychologically speaking.
ryc: i was going to bring my mentee to our orientation meeting, but i couldn’t get ahold of him because he doesn’t have a cell phone yet.
oh, i heard from ivy that you still have one more quarter? i’ll go to your apartment to visit some time during this quarter, haven’t seen your ass in a long time!

aydongbeeleef said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:12 pm

girls can wear whatever they want.. i don care..  hell, then i prob. won’t get yelled at for ‘not noticing’ something.  i esp. think girls need to Stop wearing those stupid strappy shoes.. Sneakers, people.. Comfort…..
SoCal is 10 times worse than anywhere else in the western united states…  evil place…
i demand a recount?

thatyellowbastid said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:12 pm

I think you mean “sadist”, no? :p I’m saving my essay answer to your question for a drinking session.

Keniiiiiiiiiiii said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:18 pm

LoL My Mr.T pic totally won! What a rigged vote >

simplyxmoi said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:19 pm

we arent as free as we think we are.
but i think the same things go for men. if i see a guy unshaved, messy hair, and ugly clothes;; ill say he’s a slob. but i think people are more critical on women

seksae said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:27 pm

ah yes…10 yr old kids with make up…and yet we wonder why r kelly and the people of his ilk are after them..
no…no one is free…only the white man is free…they’ve got the complexion for the protection…tru tru

aradne said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:35 pm

“Only the white man is free”Meaning white ‘men’ or white people. Either way, I don’t agree. We’ve all got problems, and race doesn’t have much to do with it. I stopped going to the multicultural council on campus because all I heard about was how ‘priviledged’ I am. You can fucking have these ‘priviledges’ that you’re seeing.

Metro said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:43 pm

I am a male feminist. It’s a great struggle.

a_different_perspective said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:55 pm

how true~  Maybe this explains why many ppl go through a make over by the time they reach university.  Make up, hair style, nice clothes, etc.  The “natural” look no longer exist.  Keeping up the trend and making yourself look attrative is the key to attract the person you are attracted to!  I’m not saying this is solely the reason why the transition, but it could be a possibility.  I remember when i was dressed in baggy clothes (comfty) and with no make up (‘cuz i’m too lazy to spend too much time on it) and with glasses (contacts were scary)~
I guess we dont have “that freedom” but it is not like we dont enjoy looking “hot” as you put it! lol~

boo_b said,

September 24, 2005 @ 12:57 pm

Most girls wear nice shoes to impress other girls.  If you’re wearing those kick ass blood sucking shoes to get guys attention you’re wasting your time. Save yourself a lot of trouble and change shoes because guys dont really care.
All this women on women crime is making me sick.  Cant you all get along? =P

kalamai said,

September 24, 2005 @ 1:07 pm

ah yes, the boppers that look my age (joke’s on them cause i’ve been told i look 16 nowadays!)
i say be a slob when you wanna. who cares what strangers think?!

mAnGLeDmiSTlEtoE said,

September 24, 2005 @ 1:17 pm

I saw some little girls (meaning they were short and young looking…) wearing mini-skirts and tons of eyeshadow the other day…I’m 14, and I don’t use as much as they do.
Of course, I feel compelled to do something before going out in public. It stinks, and I really wish I didn’t care.
My friend once wore these impossible shoes to a concert…because they ‘looked nice’. She could barely walk, and was leaning on me for support the whole time.
It would be nice to be a slob again….haha.

seanscheng said,

September 24, 2005 @ 1:42 pm

Things really took a turn for the worse right after the emergence of Britney Spears and the teeny-bopper generation. They’re the ones keeping shows like Laguna Beach and the culture it promotes alive.
Girls who graduated high school before 1998 were a lot less worried about the way they looked. Wait, I take that back. They still did, but the fashion/style was a lot different.

KrNbOi54843837 said,

September 24, 2005 @ 1:52 pm

i wuld be sayin dat dere r da gansta presshuh on da menz 2

racheek said,

September 24, 2005 @ 1:59 pm

i wrote an entry in my journal exactly.. like what u said here : )

animated_wonsoongee said,

September 24, 2005 @ 2:01 pm

ginmar‘s livejournal has a strong perspective on that.if complaints exist, maybe not so free?

Ssweet_dreemzZ said,

September 24, 2005 @ 2:03 pm

Good point.

whonose said,

September 24, 2005 @ 2:17 pm

If those people claim independence by going against the norms of society they’re still referencing social norms to make their decision and so are still not free from the system.
And i’m glad we both agreed with the nipples

artifichild007 said,

September 24, 2005 @ 2:56 pm

Ahh I love your site/layout/posts… :-D-Jess

Sweettalk115 said,

September 24, 2005 @ 3:43 pm

wow ur posts rock

gooksantiger said,

September 24, 2005 @ 3:51 pm

My sister is a crazy feminist. People think she is my brother

kawaiiyuja said,

September 24, 2005 @ 3:55 pm

wow those are some intelligent thoughts
i agree with you 100%
i’m subscribing =)

Asphyxophilia__x said,

September 24, 2005 @ 4:18 pm

In both cases, its measuring up to a standard in society.But the thing is, many people dont see it that way.

StoopidSavant said,

September 24, 2005 @ 4:45 pm

Maybe I’m wrong, but I think this is a phenomenon that is more prevalent around the West Coast. Just about all of my friends and my coworkers (I work at a medical school, so it’s not a place for bums) dress comfortably and wear little or no makeup. I really see no reason why a woman should feel “obligated” to wear shoes that crush her feet. If anything, I prefer a girl that dresses casually and wears no makeup. After all, I want to know her for her, not her public mask. Not to say this as a disparagement, but most of my friends who have lived in both coasts report that left coasters tend to be more “superficial” and place more emphasis on public appearance.

guitar___riffs said,

September 24, 2005 @ 5:10 pm

There’s not a lot of girls in NYC who wear make-up though. Say, the rich manhantenites [tall, sleak, thin, etc.] always look so natural. But of course, they’re born beautiful. Then there’s the gangster-type girls. Who put lots of gel in their hair and wear all brand name clothing, but yet they hardly wear make up anyway. It’s usually just lip gloss.But yeah I still agree with the whole make-up thing. But lately it’s all about going natural anyway. But if it were clothing instead, then definitely, because I can never go outside in sweats and be noticed by anyone.

rubberduckiesandcheese said,

September 24, 2005 @ 5:54 pm

free your mind! matrix this, matrix that. something something there is no spoon and the goverment is taking advantage of our obliviousness. gotta love the states.

Tsunaki36 said,

September 24, 2005 @ 6:41 pm

morally we’re definately still not equal. it shall take much time for that

jeeves777 said,

September 24, 2005 @ 6:57 pm

hmm good point. bondage comes in many different forms. many of those girls who go au naturel have chains of their own. very few are free

crazynisa said,

September 24, 2005 @ 7:04 pm

If I had a choice I’d wear sweat pants and t-shirts, to hell with tight clothing. but alas, i need/want to look hotter and/or better than the girl sitting next to me in my anthro. lecture. argh fashion.

thathrilainmanila said,

September 24, 2005 @ 7:08 pm

freedom is relative. =P

candyfeehily said,

September 24, 2005 @ 7:23 pm

i prefer to be slob but lately have to push myself to dress properly or putting on makeup.

spygirl4 said,

September 24, 2005 @ 7:26 pm

definitely free to do as we wish. but going with society against your own wishes is not lack of freedom, it’s lack of conviction.

HotterBoy said,

September 24, 2005 @ 7:31 pm

i’m a slave to having to look great too. i guess i’m a chick with a huge clitoris. ha…which i’d love to show you.

RoxyKawaii said,

September 24, 2005 @ 7:42 pm

i’m one to wear comfortable clothing and indulge in a little make up once in a while, but i cringe at the thought of my friends struggling to fit in shoes that cause blisters, etc. >
women are often bound by society and its ways of thinking. im not a major feminist activist or anything like that, but it seems like women are always judged by their appearances first, no matter what she may be like personality wise. :sigh: the struggles of living with society’s standards.
nice posts and layout btw lol

X0kriSty0X said,

September 24, 2005 @ 7:53 pm

wow great posts..also we have the same birthdayim on march 16th too :)

delteng said,

September 24, 2005 @ 7:58 pm

You are correct in implying that we are bound by our american social culture by what’s “cool” or “in” or “hip.” But, I think we are free to a certain extent. All your examples mainly demonstrate CHOICE — that is, to wear what we want despite it being uncomfortable. The burden of following these trends or the desire to not stand out as being “ouf of style” lies upon our own shoulders.
Thus, I believe we have the freedom of expression but most of us follow what the media, celebrities, etc. feed us.  Just my opinion! =)

airina05 said,

September 24, 2005 @ 8:11 pm

freedom is subjective.
everything becomes trendy – it’s now popular to be a “punk”, it’s popular to be “emo”, if you’re not those things, then you see yourself as “normal” but who defines that? society.
but i suppose, we are free to choose which trends we adhere to….
really, it all depends on your definition. defining freedom would emcompass so many facets

cailis said,

September 24, 2005 @ 8:31 pm

interesting thoughts

NoBackstreetboys said,

September 24, 2005 @ 8:46 pm

When I dress like a slut, people accuse me of being gay. So its not only girls who are oppressed. I’m banned from society’s standards to dress like a whore. Which I love to do. I wanna wear a skirt. I need air for my balls.

Boomerang said,

September 24, 2005 @ 8:46 pm

Wow, the topics you post, always has an abundance of comments… You’re popular on here..
I don’t think that your topic depics feminism alone, but on a broader scale: humans.. We as humans in democtratic or a freedom of speech society, have all the rights and freedoms anyone can ever ask for, but because most of us feel the obligation to fit into society, we set barriers in our daily lives. I’ve recently shaved my head and am heading planning into being a monk, so I’ve read alot of Buddhist books, so I’m more aware of burdens that samaritans are susceptible to.
Our country is free, but we’re not. We’re all trapped in the realm of mankind, the realm of obligations that we set upon ourselves. We’re happy for the moment because what we do makes others happy or is what’s accepted by others: Therefore, we’re entrapped into making others happy.. It’s hard to explain it, but to summarize everything about what you mentioned. We’re all prisoners of ourselves…

Mr_Nish said,

September 24, 2005 @ 9:10 pm

Everyone is bound by society and trying to do what is considered right, which is what one of your previous posts talked about. Actually, I just finished writing an essay on how Vicotrian Era worship of the higher class, shown through “Great Expectations,” parallels today’s society, but it’s a pretty crappy essay.I’ve read your site a few times here and there, but now I’m going to subscribe. And I do leave long comments like this a lot.

evilbebe said,

September 24, 2005 @ 9:10 pm

so true.

veritas_interregnum said,

September 24, 2005 @ 9:14 pm

     I say yes, women are as free in the U.S. as everyone seems to think.  Influenced, but still free.  Muslim women in other countries aren’t allowed to have the choice, which is the inherent difference between that country and the U.S.  That being said, there seems to be a new focus on what my friend and I call “plastic people” – those who model themselves after what they see in GQ and Cosmo, etc.  I for one typically find that a woman is beautiful without makeup and I prefer it when women wear sweats and a baseball cap.  Because it seems in today’s society that that’s when you see them being themselves, no need for the “societal mask”.  Food for thought anyway…

Kevin72 said,

September 24, 2005 @ 9:45 pm

Agreed. And there’s lots of other ways in which Americans are losing our freedoms. What I’m thinking of is Japan where there is so much pressure to conform and not be different….. there is no laws, but everyone is a ‘fashion police’ subtly ostracizing nonconformists by nature of the culture.

dooE said,

September 24, 2005 @ 9:50 pm

um Gender Roles my dear. people feel they need to live up to their gender role in society. however not every woman is a supermodel. i kinda feel sorry for girls, u guys have such high standards to live up to and so much pressure to look at least presentable. but its not like u girls hate looking pretty and dressin up and all that jazz. not that u need all that to look pretty, just feel prettier?. well, actually, you kinda do if you wanna look pretty thru the eyes of others. ill stop speakin before every chic who reads this hates me. hahah

burningsecrets said,

September 24, 2005 @ 11:00 pm

Ugh. I go to an all-girls school. Plenty makeup. There are some who don’t bother with those stuff though.

OoOohPeTeR said,

September 25, 2005 @ 12:13 am

those are thoughtful points, but you are also making general statements.

xSw3etGuRlz813x said,

September 25, 2005 @ 3:54 am

i believe that completely.  i just think we as a society can never grasp the concept we are, who we are, and we should love ourselves.  we do have a choice to give in or not.
my mom is a good example of this. shes constantly telling me to lose weight and always look nice no matter where i go.  its embedded in my mind that i could always do something to improve upon myself.  so i was obsessed with becoming ‘perfect’ but thanks to my friends im starting to appreciate who i am.  :-D

jaguar_kally7 said,

September 25, 2005 @ 4:40 am

“My sense of being trapped probably started when I saw little girls, no older than 10 done up more expensively and stylishly that I ever was, have been since, or ever will be. There’s just something wrong, when a 10 year old looks more attractive [in an adult way!] than you do. It’s something that as much as you rant about how wrong it is, makes you feel self conscious. And this self consciousness makes you dye your hair, put on make up and wear clothes you wouldn’t naturally choose to wear.”That’s exactly how I feel. They’re half my age and twice my cup size.

lmondragon said,

September 25, 2005 @ 5:17 am

i wear chucks when i go out to a club. so yes, i think i’m pretty damn free.
everyone has the choice to do/dress however they want regardless of what society says. you’re only bound if you allow yourself to be. best advice: live by your own rules.
dont get me wrong though, i do care about how i look to others. weekly manicures/pedicures/eyebrow plucking (so hard to find a place that uses wax in china).  you can get a mani/pedi/brows all for $10 USD!

Featured_Grownups said,

September 25, 2005 @ 6:03 am

Great post Shi!  At times it does feel like we’re only as free as what’s socially accceptable.

Abercrombieluva069 said,

September 25, 2005 @ 6:27 am

Hey wats goin on.. im just checkin out people’s pages and decided to leave ya a comment!

KaShAfAyE09 said,

September 25, 2005 @ 6:57 am

hi..

mariesmist said,

September 25, 2005 @ 7:38 am

it’s an issue of putting a greater value on things – clothes, makeup, shoes, bags – than on relationships and qualities like compassion and sincerity.  i recommend a book called can’t buy my love: how advertising changes the way we think and feel.  it’s amaing what people dont see.

lilrubberducki said,

September 25, 2005 @ 8:39 am

little girls should dress their age.

SekcAznShawty said,

September 25, 2005 @ 8:47 am

im jus here2 give some props. Ur pageis really cute. Well im outtz-ashley-

M_Megan_M said,

September 25, 2005 @ 9:03 am

Very good point…..I love the site also.  Fact of the matter is, when we say we dont care what people think, we absolutely do and its not even just the critiquing from the men. I think we dress for the women much of the time.  I wish it werent this way at all, but it is. – Deffinately a way I have never looked at it.
I love a good post that will make me think

gechalx said,

September 25, 2005 @ 10:04 am

omg shoes that cut your feet? wtf is that shit!!! oh nohes!! i used to not really care and hated to dress “style” myself up back in high school and early college years… but now i think looking good feels good. ahaha and you always look so “clean” when you’re dressed. even a wrinkled dress shirt with nice slacks looks nicer than a tshirt and jeans.

spcemarine said,

September 25, 2005 @ 10:47 am

We’re not all bound by the labels of this society.We’re bound by subsets of a common culture which judge us based on how we present ourselves. Whether such judgement means anything to how YOU act is up to you, as plenty of people can and do go around completely ignoring what society “thinks” of them, perfectly happy being themselves. (When taken to extremes, these are the people which end up on Jerry Springer. But when not taken to extremes, I admire people who don’t follow conventions and strive to ignore them and do what I feel like and what’s right, myself.)I don’t think this has anything to do with “freedom” as you first describe it, though. Many societies are unfortunately far more restrictive in what’s permitted. Violations won’t just change opinions of you, they’ll get you raped and stoned to death. I don’t think we can compare those as if they’re the same kind of thing.

Keniiiiiiiiiiii said,

September 25, 2005 @ 11:00 am

My gf is a slob, i still love her. You women are the ones guilty of making yourself unfree and stuff.

xdo_somethinx said,

September 25, 2005 @ 11:16 am

Great entry! You’ve got great points. I think we all feel pressured to look attractive, whether we’re boys or girls. I know I do. But even boys are judged by their looks, I mean look at the boys featured on xanga. Most of them look alike (lip piercing, black shaggy hair, tight jeans) and girls are really attracted to that. If they didn’t look like that, then they wouldn’t be so popular. Maybe I’m not making sense but anyways, good job!

Hamstadini said,

September 25, 2005 @ 11:45 am

Hello there. At the expense of sounding like a windbag, I must say:When I saw your xanga in “Featured content,” I thought that you were good. When I saw you today for the second time, I thought, “WTH? No one’s appeared on featured content twice (At least when I was on the xanga main page)!” I was even more flabbergasted when I saw that you won the Ms. Xanga 2005 contest, or whatever you call it.But scrolling down and reading the posts, I figured out why. Each of your posts has wit, honesty, and intelligence. You put your heart into each post, and it shows. Even those posts where you think you’re being totally brain-dead have a sarcastic intelligence about them.Pyrobird, a girl I once knew, was so afraid of being stalked that all she put on were links, pictures of her artwork, and songs. I was disgusted with her lack of honesty (on the internet and in person), so I cut communications with her. Ironically, I have sunk down to her level. But now that I see how you’ve turned a webpage journal into a place for intellectual discourse, I think I’ll start being a little more philosophical nowadays…Now if you’re wondering, I did actually have something to say other than slobbering over your website. Peer pressure is a prime factor in hindering freedom, but the media is the main influence in putting us in our “categories.” Consider:Lindsay Lohan, Hillary Duff, the Olsen Twins – these are the stars that grew up in Hollywood, and those 10 year olds at the mall grew up with them. The stars appeal to them through their fame fortune and onscreen romances so that the mall girls want to emulate their idols by putting on makeup and wearing high heels.Jessica Alba, Jennifer Lopez (ok, maybe not so much), Jennifer Aniston, and much more have the same influences. Never will you see a dirty, uncouth tomboy onscreen as the main character in a romance unless she’s reformed into a princess at the end of the movie. This tells people that women will never get men unless they dress up and are attractive to the guys. (Hmmm… there might be a screenplay in a tomboy romance… I’ll have to think on that later…)In essence, Hollywood is so sheisty with their money that they will only produce “safe” movies that actually reinforce stereotypes in the minds of countless audiences. There will be hope if independent movies can step up to the plate, but that’s only if they show something different from the mainstream – not a small challenge if you have been bombarded with stereotypes all your life.In my opinion, there is none so underrepresented as Asian American Men (AAM). Flick on the TV – you’ll see the martial artists and the computer geeks, but not the artists, not the businessmen, not the philosophers. In the meantime, AAWs are being represented, but in all the wrong ways – as seductresses, dragon ladies, geisha girls, china dolls, pretty little things that cling to the arm of the white man…okay, so I’m getting a little bit more worked up about this than I should be. You can read articles for yourself here:http://modelminority.com/article1019.htmlhttp://modelminority.com/article996.htmlThanks for reading through this. If you disagree with me on certain issues, I’d love to hear them.

candiez said,

September 25, 2005 @ 2:42 pm

yay Larry won! about what has been said..i still go on with no make-up and wear comfy clothes..cuz i don’t really care what anyone thinks..we live for ourselves not for others..so we should do what we want with out bodies..

yEh_im_chinEse said,

September 25, 2005 @ 2:52 pm

Hey!!! wassupWhenever you’re “FREE” can you teach me how to HTML? cuz shit i get confused whenever i try to do something cool.Laterdayz,-Chinese Guy-

uncommon_guy said,

September 25, 2005 @ 3:25 pm

i know what you mean…once i overheard this mother in a t-mobile store, forgave the grammer and spellin error…anyways, this mother was talking to her 10 year son. she’s buying a new cell to her son…i asked her, what are u doing?…she ofcourse she buying a cell for her son, but why?…anyways her son is the last person in his class to have a cell…i’m like what?!?!?! and this is his second cell…so we [the young] people are nothing but consumers…robots with green paper and plastic money…not even people anymore, of course i’m go to class in sweats, 2nd hand books in arms, fugly car that’s older than me, and living in humble means… ;]

outta_control_teen16 said,

September 25, 2005 @ 3:39 pm

I love your post.
Random Props
I will hit back later.
Ivoree

ibbysinful said,

September 25, 2005 @ 3:49 pm

I agree with u, totally. I am facing and questioning the things u stated as well. awesome post. congrats on being featured. =) hav a good day-randoms

neoDaFunky said,

September 25, 2005 @ 5:26 pm

There is something wrong when a 10 year old girl looks more “adult-ly” attractive than you, but it’s not you who’s wrong. It’s the little bitch who’s dressing up like a slut who’s wrong.
*trip*

Papaya26 said,

September 25, 2005 @ 5:54 pm

I used to be an average gal..wear makeup..and wear comfortable shoe but now that I’m married and have my own family I wear alot of t-shirt, jean, and flip flop. I guess my kids are still small so I have to carry them and if  I doll up I feel unattractive so I’ll wait until they can walk by themself without wanting to be pick up. random prop!

Defy_Sanity said,

September 25, 2005 @ 6:06 pm

labeling is what society does today and it sucks

dearmisery said,

September 25, 2005 @ 6:56 pm

I was just wondering what else is there to fight for for womens freedom… thanks for the answer

drewish_machine said,

September 25, 2005 @ 9:07 pm

I am drewish, and I am a online writer.  I would like it if you could swing by my site.  thanks pal
-drewish

MacSurferX said,

September 25, 2005 @ 10:24 pm

Word.

jigg said,

September 26, 2005 @ 5:08 am

even though there are many outside influences, we are free to make our own choices.  even though the choice may not satisfy our emotions, that’s how life is.
-ray leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

kyasha said,

September 27, 2005 @ 10:36 am

your name by the man’s nipple – classic.

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